got nerd sniped.
I'm reading about ancient greek and roman coins.
I'm seriously considering buying a handful of 1700+ year old coins.
@thegibson Gibs, these are more than a thousand years old, neat looking, in reasonably good condition, and less than $15.
That's gotta be good for something.
@thegibson Right no I know.
But, like, if I walked in to a restaurant in town and said "shit, I don't have my wallet. Uhh, will you take this 1800 year old Roman Coin? It's worth about $20 today, and would have had about $20 equivalent buying power in the roman empire" and they didn't just take it and give me a sandwich, I'd be shocked.
They don't spend, but they spend.
So lots of greek and roman coins are reasonably common and especially late era Roman Bronze coins are frequently available in "Very Fine" condition for $5-25.
$10ish for 1500-2000 year old coins seems absurd.
Like, I can think of way less worthwhile things to spend $10 on.
It's useless, but having a few thousand year old coins to keep, to copy, to give as gifts, that seems like a good use of a couple dozen bucks.
@ajroach42 I did not know that. I agree fully with your thoughts on this, and I think I will buy some for that very reason.
@ajroach42 my father got a bunch of those. I thought it was a scam but I figure if you're trying to scam people you'd charge more. Real or not, they still just look cool
@grumpy as best I can tell, most on the market are authentic.
I'm doing some reading, trying to decide what I want to find.
@loke that's fair. Lots of local coin vendors around me, including a few folks that I know really well, so I'll be buying mine in person.
Trickier in asia, I imagine.
@ajroach42 I know precisely where I intend to go when I finally get to visit Stockholm again. I'm still hoping to be able to do so this year.
@ajroach42 this week, on things I almost bought on eBay: money, but really old. Quite the change of pace from the usual "rack mount whatever for doing stuff my computer already does better"
@ajroach42 how much were those coins originally worth though, adjusted for inflation. You might be getting an excellent value
@cinebox it's really hard to say for most of the copper. Once I've settled on a couple of specific coins, I'll figure it out.
@cinebox Okay so I know that this was a joke, but https://web.archive.org/web/20130210071801/http://dougsmith.ancients.info/worth.html
Someone asked (at least a little tongue in cheek) what the buying power of some of these old Roman coins would have been.
It's hard to say with any accuracy, but I found this article which gets in to some of the details: https://web.archive.org/web/20130210071801/http://dougsmith.ancients.info/worth.html
I'm mostly looking at coins from circa 300.
According to that article:
"By 305 AD a modius of wheat sold for between 2 and 10 nummi depending on location.
Around 320 AD we have a record of bread selling at Antioch for 2 nummi."
(A modius is 10 days of wheat, baked loaves were a luxury.)
It goes on to talk about prices for other goods, but basically by 320 or so, a Nummus was about a modern dollar.
Except, what even is a Nummus?
"Nummus is a Latin term meaning "coin", but used technically by modern writers for a range of low-value copper coins issued by the Roman and Byzantine empires during Late Antiquity.
The word was also used during the later years of the Roman Republic and the early Empire, either as a general word for a coin, or to describe the sestertius, which was the standard unit for keeping accounts."
So, uhh, about a dollar? Unless it was a lot less? Except it might have also been more, and Roman people basically didn't buy any of the things we buy today, so apples to apples is impossible anyway.
condiments ancient and moder.
@ajroach42 you could compare a bottle of ketchup to a jug of that weird gross fish paste the Romans used. That's probably almost comparable between Roman and US culture